buffett way ahead in 1m wager against hedge funds
Last Updated : GMT 06:49:16
Arab Today, arab today
Arab Today, arab today
Last Updated : GMT 06:49:16
Arab Today, arab today

Buffett way ahead in $1m wager against hedge funds

Arab Today, arab today

Arab Today, arab today Buffett way ahead in $1m wager against hedge funds

Billionaire investor Warren Buffett
Washington - AFP

On the eve of the 2008 financial crisis, a US hedge fund chief bet $1 million that his complex, high-cost strategies could beat the plodding approach of investment guru Warren Buffett.
Seven years into the 10-year wager, Buffett -- already the world's second-richest man -- is winning hands-down, the hedge fund head grudgingly admitted Thursday.
"We sure look wrong," wrote Ted Seides, president of Protege Partners, who made the personal bet with Buffett, founder of the wildly successful Berkshire Hathaway investment house.
The two bet over whose investment approach would come out ahead in the 10 years from January 1, 2008. Buffet selected Vanguard's conservative, S&P 500-based Admiral shares, and Seides assembled a group of five funds that invest exclusively in other hedge funds.
Buffett's argument was that the high management and performance fees charged by hedge funds -- and especially hedge funds of funds -- wipes out the advantage they gain over more pedestrian investing styles from their complicated hedging strategies.
The result so far: Admiral shares are up 63.5 percent since 2008, while after the management and performance fees are stripped out, the Seides hedge fund of funds return to investors was just 19.6 percent.
Indeed, before the fees are netted out, the Seides funds only brought back 44 percent.
Seides though argued in a CFA Institute blog post that the unanticipated conditions of the post-crisis period -- particularly the Federal Reserve's still-in-place zero interest rate policy -- have been exceptional, and so not a reasonable gauge.
That, combined with investment managers' focus on the S&P 500, have tilted the gambling table in Buffett's favor, he said.
"These factors wreaked havoc on a bet, the prospects of which we initially felt quite confident about," he argued.
Moreover, he argued, it was not the fees that accounted for the poorer performance of the hedge fund of funds, so Buffett's thesis has not been proven.
"These seven lean years for hedge funds may go down in the annals of market history as a period driven singularly by central bank stimulus. Using that lens, it becomes less clear that the bet, if lost, proves that hedge funds are not worth an investment across a cycle."
Yet both approaches have proven inferior to how the money put up for the bet was handled. Together Buffett and Seides put $640,000 into a zero-coupon bond that would be mature at a value of $1 million after 10 years, to pay off the wager.
That turned out to be one of the best investments in the financial crisis. By 2012, said Seides, it was already worth $950,000, up 50 percent. The bond was sold and the money put in Berkshire Hathaway stock, and is now worth $1.7 million.
The real winner, then, will be the charity that gets that money when the bet concludes in 2018.

 

arabstoday
arabstoday

Name *

E-mail *

Comment Title*

Comment *

: Characters Left

Mandatory *

Terms of use

Publishing Terms: Not to offend the author, or to persons or sanctities or attacking religions or divine self. And stay away from sectarian and racial incitement and insults.

I agree with the Terms of Use

Security Code*

buffett way ahead in 1m wager against hedge funds buffett way ahead in 1m wager against hedge funds

 



Name *

E-mail *

Comment Title*

Comment *

: Characters Left

Mandatory *

Terms of use

Publishing Terms: Not to offend the author, or to persons or sanctities or attacking religions or divine self. And stay away from sectarian and racial incitement and insults.

I agree with the Terms of Use

Security Code*

buffett way ahead in 1m wager against hedge funds buffett way ahead in 1m wager against hedge funds

 



GMT 18:15 2017 Thursday ,23 February

Iraqi forces free Mosul airport from deash militants

GMT 09:45 2017 Saturday ,11 November

UAE, French relations discussed

GMT 13:16 2014 Monday ,22 September

All obstacles to transport projects removed

GMT 22:53 2017 Tuesday ,25 July

Hand of God goal 'wouldn't have stood'

GMT 16:42 2017 Saturday ,29 April

381,463 migrants in Libya

GMT 10:08 2017 Wednesday ,27 September

Indonesia ready to divert tourists

GMT 18:44 2016 Monday ,25 January

Saudi Customs Revenues Rise in 2015
Arab Today, arab today
 
 Arab Today Facebook,arab today facebook  Arab Today Twitter,arab today twitter Arab Today Rss,arab today rss  Arab Today Youtube,arab today youtube  Arab Today Youtube,arab today youtube

Maintained and developed by Arabs Today Group SAL.
All rights reserved to Arab Today Media Group 2021 ©

Maintained and developed by Arabs Today Group SAL.
All rights reserved to Arab Today Media Group 2021 ©

arabstoday arabstoday arabstoday arabstoday
arabstoday arabstoday arabstoday
arabstoday
بناية النخيل - رأس النبع _ خلف السفارة الفرنسية _بيروت - لبنان
arabstoday, Arabstoday, Arabstoday